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My findings for Fermenting Sugar

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Re: My findings for Fermenting Sugar

Postby minime » Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:05 am

Fester wrote:I have a notepad document named PintoShine. When I come across tidbits and words of wisdom from pinto, I copy and past it there. Except for mashing corn, that's the only one that keep adding to.

And here I thought I was the only one with a PintoShine document. :8)
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Re: My findings for Fermenting Sugar

Postby Rebel_Yell » Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:03 pm

I generate a PDF of the posts that I save. One can also bookmark a page.
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Re: My findings for Fermenting Sugar

Postby mort4 » Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:13 pm

Wish I had been doing that all along, now I have to go back through everything. :x
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Re: My findings for Fermenting Sugar

Postby pintoshine » Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:57 pm

I read the whole document that harry posted and it has the word hydrochloric in it exactly once.
There was a paragraph that stated that the use of sulfuric acid tended to cause the high prevalence of calcium to form calcium sulfate. This is not bad but it is not as soluble and they were only pointing it out as a possible way to reduce the fouling on plates.
Since there is so much calcium in the molasses I speculate that most of the chlorine, present as free ions in HCL, which yeast are not very tolerant of, is reacted into calcium chloride which a bound form of chlorine that is not as detrimental to yeast.

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Re: My findings for Fermenting Sugar

Postby stillbrewin » Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:22 pm

Ok, maybe I'm missing something (could be rather large :) ), but I've done sugar washes twice - both times for 'cleaning runs'. I'll never make that mistake again....

Both were table sugar, 10lbs/5gal, with good water and inverted with lemon juice and boiling. Fermentation went off like gang-busters. On the first I used turbo and thought the bad result was due to that. So on the second I used champagne yeast.

And both times they smelled like something I didn't even want to smell - let alone drink. I mean this stuff was nasty Like really bad athletes foot. :shock: - the wash and the spirits! I know it didn't go off to vinegar, but still took me 4-5 washes/rinses/boils to get the stench out of my fermenter and still.

The only good part was it made fairly decent weed killer.... so what did I do wrong? I've been making some fairly acceptable all-grain whiskey, so the results with sugar were somewhat surprising.

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Re: My findings for Fermenting Sugar

Postby kiwi » Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:33 pm

Did you just pot still it? What are you trying to make?
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Re: My findings for Fermenting Sugar

Postby punkin » Thu Oct 06, 2011 12:21 am

Sounds like an infection of some sorts.

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Re: My findings for Fermenting Sugar

Postby YeastPimp » Fri Jan 10, 2014 7:53 pm

I know the last post is years old... Just re-reading this for the who-knows-how-many time.

As for a source of phosphoric acid, what about Five Star's StarSan*? It's 50% phosphoric acid, we use it ALL the time for sanitizing fermentation equipment, bottles, etc, and whatever residue is left over and diluted, the yeast love. Just wondering.
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Re: My findings for Fermenting Sugar

Postby Scout » Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:13 pm

This is lots of great information that I now have in my notebook. Thank you Pint and all the others, I can try making a rum now to go along with my all malts and all grains.
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Re: My findings for Fermenting Sugar

Postby acfixer69 » Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:15 pm

Over the years this thread pops up and when I read it again I always pick up some thing new that clicks. Why something I did worked, and why something else i did, did not.
I think this thread is priceless and all nube's should bookmark it and refer to it often. Thanks Pint

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