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Ian Smiley's Wheat Vodka

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Ian Smiley's Wheat Vodka

Postby okie » Wed May 29, 2013 7:49 pm

Has anyone made this recipe? I have a copy of it but it's a PDF file on my computer and I'm not sure how tp post it.

It seems simple enough for us AG brewers if we can get the wheat. All the vodka I've made so far has been sugar based which is clean but I think is cheating.
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Re: Ian Smiley's Wheat Vodka

Postby Swede » Wed May 29, 2013 10:39 pm

I had the pleasure of running a batch of this with Ian Smiley a few days ago and it's quite nice. It was being run off a 4 plate still as wheat whiskey, simply pushing it to higher proof would be necessary for vodka. Once I get the chance to try out some of the vodka from this recipe I'd be happy to let you know how it tastes.

The mash was done with liquid enzymes and 100% wheat. It produced a pleasant smelling distillate with WAY less heads and tails that I would have expected. In discussion with Ian he did mention that wheat usually has a smaller amount of congeners than barley or corn. From what I seen, I would tend to believe this. This would make it a mash well suited to vodka if somewhat labor intensive.

Be sure you use a three enzyme mash sequence to avoid making "glue" out of the glutens in the wheat as you bring the mash up to gelatinization temps. I believe that using alpha amylase and some beta glucanase on the way up keeps the mash manageable. Then cool and add gluco amylase for saccarification. Perhaps someone with a little more AG experience could confirm this.
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Re: Ian Smiley's Wheat Vodka

Postby okie » Thu May 30, 2013 9:03 am

Thanks Swede. I'll make sure I have all three enzymes before I try it. From what you are saying, making a whiskey from it might be outstanding as well. Interesting!
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Re: Ian Smiley's Wheat Vodka

Postby prairiepiss » Thu May 30, 2013 10:56 am

I love wheat. I have made both whiskey and vodka with the same wheat AG recipe. And to my tastes it is a far superior finished product then any sugarhead.

Remember that not all wheats are the same. White wheat is a more neutral flavor the red wheat. Red wheat has a more sharper or spicier taste then white wheat. How much difference? Depends on many things and your pallet. But still use them accordingly. If you are wanting to make a vodka start with the white wheat. Whiskey add some red if you want to. Experiment with them to find what you like. I personaly like to make my first run of a batch for whiskey. If I like it? It is kept as whiskey. If its not quite what I wanted I distill it again going for a vodka.

So far my favorite for both has been all white wheat. 20% malted and 80% unmalted. But I still have many more experiments to do before I will be satisfied that that is my favorite.
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Re: Ian Smiley's Wheat Vodka

Postby jake_leg » Thu May 30, 2013 1:49 pm

What grind are you guys using and how are you dealing with the gum?
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Re: Ian Smiley's Wheat Vodka

Postby prairiepiss » Thu May 30, 2013 6:40 pm

What ever the homebrew shop gave me. I haven't had a chance to play with my mill yet. And I used a bag and squeezed. I didn't have a proper mash tun yet. But I'm stocked up on rice hulls and will be trying them when I do my next one with a false bottom.
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Re: Ian Smiley's Wheat Vodka

Postby likkerluvver » Thu May 30, 2013 7:21 pm

prairiepiss wrote:I love wheat. I have made both whiskey and vodka with the same wheat AG recipe. And to my tastes it is a far superior finished product then any sugarhead.....

.....So far my favorite for both has been all white wheat. 20% malted and 80% unmalted. But I still have many more experiments to do before I will be satisfied that that is my favorite.

Time to dust of the Braumeister and do a run of this. I have all 3 of Pint's enzymes ready to go. When do you think you'll post your method PP?
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Re: Ian Smiley's Wheat Vodka

Postby prairiepiss » Thu May 30, 2013 9:14 pm

I have no idea. LOL. I've been holding out till I get my brew rig up and going. But like many of my projects its on hold for funding. Not to mention I've kinda put this stuff on hold for a while. But I'm not happy enough with the methods I have used so far. Basic AG methods. I want to go down the protein rest road. And haven't been able to do it with the equipment I've used.
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Re: Ian Smiley's Wheat Vodka

Postby midwest shinner » Thu Jun 20, 2013 2:20 pm

I haven't tried Smiley's recipe or method but had the pleasure recently of meeting a member of the HD and MD forums named Jimbo who has a great recipe for a 100% red wheat malt whisky. I would definitely recommend checking it out. Just my humble opinion
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