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Oak Barrel Buyer Beware! Elguedo Ebay

Postby 3d0g » Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:03 pm

Buyer beware of barrels from eBay seller elguedo in TX. I needed some back in Aug and artscraftsofmexico was on vacation so I gave this other (highly rated) guy a chance. The barrels are LOADED with wax inside. Looks like they pour molten wax into the finished barrels and roll it around to seal the heads. Spirits now taste like halloween wax lips. :barf:

Mod edit; split this topic so it didn't get lost.
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Re: Oak Barrel Buyer Beware! Elguedo Ebay

Postby just sayin' » Fri Oct 17, 2014 6:31 pm

Thanks for the heads up! I am guessing thier wax renders your purchase useless.
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Re: Oak Barrel Buyer Beware! Elguedo Ebay

Postby Harry » Sat Oct 18, 2014 4:26 am

You can fill the bad barrel with hot water to melt the wax. Then dump it out. Repeat several times. Wax will float out with the dump. Then to prep it for filling with spirit, fill with room-temp clean water and allow to stand before use. This will swell the timber to stop most leaks. Prolly why they used wax internal in the 1st place. Definite no-no. But if you find it still leaks, wax it EXTERNAL, rub over the leak spots with BEES WAX only NOT parrafin or candle wax.
You may just save the barrel. At least it's worth a try.

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Re: Oak Barrel Buyer Beware! Elguedo Ebay

Postby 3d0g » Sat Oct 18, 2014 7:25 am

Because he used paraffin, which is ethanol soluble, there's really no amount of soaking that's going to get it out of the wood to the point that it won't alter flavor. He's not responding to email (even though he's still selling barrels) so I'll probably have to get eBay involved. Got a new order into artscraftsofmexico in the meantime.

Worst case, I'll break down the barrels, sand and re-char the staves, and have oak for bottle aging.
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Re: Oak Barrel Buyer Beware! Elguedo Ebay

Postby ClearRun » Sat Oct 18, 2014 11:06 am

Too bad. Even broken apart the staves would go well through a planer. Sanding them out would be a nasty job.

You could always use them as planters, I suppose...

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Postby Rebel_Yell » Sat Oct 18, 2014 6:57 pm

There is a reason that I use paypal...
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Postby 3d0g » Sat Oct 18, 2014 7:21 pm

Well, eBay *is* Paypal...

I've opened a claim.
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Re: Oak Barrel Buyer Beware! Elguedo Ebay

Postby Kapea » Sun Oct 19, 2014 12:40 am

3d0g wrote:Well, eBay *is* Paypal...

Not for much longer:
http://www.cnet.com/news/ebay-to-split-paypal-into-separate-company-in-2015/
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Re: Oak Barrel Buyer Beware! Elguedo Ebay

Postby Jaybird » Sun Oct 19, 2014 11:50 pm

Being an Ebay seller myself I would suggest contacting the seller first. Give them a chance to make it right and if that goes nowhere THEN take it to ebay.

Just a thought for you. If he has a KILLER rating then he does for a reason and will probably fix it without question.

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Re: Oak Barrel Buyer Beware! Elguedo Ebay

Postby 3d0g » Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:42 am

I attempted to contact him twice before this thread was ever posted. There's still 3 days to go on the formal return request before eBay will actively intervene. Been on eBay since '99 and I've never had a transaction that wasn't solved to my satisfaction so I'm not terribly worried.
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Re: Oak Barrel Buyer Beware! Elguedo Ebay

Postby RandyMarshCT » Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:48 am

Thanks for the heads up! I've seen them before, but never given them an order. I get pretty fast service from both 1000 Oaks Barrel and Black Swan Cooperage... never had a single problem, but I do not buy in volume (usually 2 or 3 barrels at a time).
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Postby bentstick » Mon Oct 20, 2014 5:31 pm

3d0g, those barrel from artscraftsof mexico are a good go! I use them also,have had a Rye/wheat in one for 2 yrs and is very good! Glad I did not get them from the other while waiting for AOCof mexico to put more up,while he was vacationing
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Re: Oak Barrel Buyer Beware! Elguedo Ebay

Postby okie » Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:53 pm

I bought a 1000 Oaks barrel and the staves are very thin ad it leaks. I wasted 2 liters of single malt in it plus it leaked on my bar. I had soaked it per instructions and tested it after the soaking which showed no leaks. Alcohol works differently than plain water. I won't buy from them again.
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Re: Oak Barrel Buyer Beware! Elguedo Ebay

Postby RandyMarshCT » Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:44 pm

That's surprising to hear. I have 4 of their 5-gallon barrels and 3 smaller (5 liter?) and never had a problem with a single one. Two of the 5-gallons are on their 3rd use (beers).
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Re: Oak Barrel Buyer Beware! Elguedo Ebay

Postby Harry » Thu Oct 23, 2014 4:41 pm

okie wrote:I bought a 1000 Oaks barrel and the staves are very thin ad it leaks. I wasted 2 liters of single malt in it plus it leaked on my bar. I had soaked it per instructions and tested it after the soaking which showed no leaks. Alcohol works differently than plain water. I won't buy from them again.



Can happen even to the best of 'em. Beeswax rub will solve most leaks.
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