Trub??

[Redfoot]

I have been talking with a local brewery,and we have made an agreement that I can have as much trub as I want. I'll have to pick it up in 55 gallon drums. It contains 5.5 % alcohol and 30% solids. My intent is not to use the alcohol but to remove the yeast solids and to use it as a food source for my bees. I have several ideals for removing the solids from the liquid but would like to hear any input you guys may have. Thanks

[punkin]

Well if you pour it out backwards you'll have burt instead of trub.










Don'tKnowIfThatHelpsPunkin

[Alfred]

[Redfoot]

Well if you pour it out backwards you'll have burt instead of trub.









I have to admit, such a great ideal. I would have never had though of that!!









Don'tKnowIfThatHelpsPunkin

[punkin]

Sounds seriously to me like a free source of alchohol you can take advantage of and then still feed it to your pigs.

If you were to make a jacket that you could just lower your 55's into and attach a stripper you could recover low wines. Maybe a remote flame insulated still like the ol timey moonshine ones fed by wood.

Then maybe remove the stripper to allow steam to escape till it was fairly dry but not caked.


Sounds like it's simply an engineering process problem, and if you approach it from a pig food point of view, the free whiskey base would be an extra byproduct from the byproduct.


You could probably get a grant to build it if you didn't mention capturing the first half of the steam.

[mikejwoodnz]

If you are trying to extract the yeast residues to make something like Marmite/Vegemite to feed your BEES then this page may help http://www.spurgeon.org/~phil/marmite.htm#howmade . However a better use in terms of this Forums outlook would be to use the trub to make a Malt Whisky - but of course that then produces a stillage suitable for pigs which of course is not the topic

[punkin]

Alright bees then.





StillThinkHeShouldGetSomePigsPunkin

[The Baker]

I have been talking with a local brewery,and we have made an agreement that I can have as much trub as I want. I'll have to pick it up in 55 gallon drums. It contains 5.5 % alcohol and 30% solids. My intent is not to use the alcohol but to remove the yeast solids and to use it as a food source for my bees. I have several ideals for removing the solids from the liquid but would like to hear any input you guys may have. Thanks

Okay, so you have to pick it up in drums.
Your own, presumably.
And you know roughly the amount of solids and of liquid in each drum.

Just let one drum of this stuff settle for a while to confirm the level in the drum of the solids.
Then put a cheap tap on every drum at that level.......plastic would be okay as it's just for a weak wash.
(Do one first so you know you have it about right).

Then pour off the liquid each time, (you will have to allow time for it to settle) AND DISTILL IT.
If, that is, you like it; if it has hops in it you may not.
But heck, it's free.

[Redfoot]

I have been talking with a local brewery,and we have made an agreement that I can have as much trub as I want. I'll have to pick it up in 55 gallon drums. It contains 5.5 % alcohol and 30% solids. My intent is not to use the alcohol but to remove the yeast solids and to use it as a food source for my bees. I have several ideals for removing the solids from the liquid but would like to hear any input you guys may have. Thanks

Okay, so you have to pick it up in drums.
Your own, presumably.
And you know roughly the amount of solids and of liquid in each drum.

Just let one drum of this stuff settle for a while to confirm the level in the drum of the solids.
Then put a cheap tap on every drum at that level.......plastic would be okay as it's just for a weak wash.
(Do one first so you know you have it about right).

Then pour off the liquid each time, (you will have to allow time for it to settle) AND DISTILL IT.
If, that is, you like it; if it has hops in it you may not.
But heck, it's free.

My first though was the same as yours, let it settle then separate. I can get five gallon mess bags in different micron sizes. Problem is I don’t know where to start. Though I might start with a four hundred micron and work my way down. I have a large grape press that I could easily put several of these bags into then press the liquid out. Before feeding it to the honey bees it would have to be air dried. As for the free alcohol I might give it a shot but, 5.5% is not a big return. Yes I will have to provide my own drums for shipping, but the good news is now I have a source for good used kegs.

[punkin]

My first though was the same as yours, let it settle then separate. I can get five gallon mess bags in different micron sizes. Problem is I don’t know where to start. Though I might start with a four hundred micron and work my way down. I have a large grape press that I could easily put several of these bags into then press the liquid out. Before feeding it to the honey bees it would have to be air dried. As for the free alcohol I might give it a shot but, 5.5% is not a big return. Yes I will have to provide my own drums for shipping, but the good news is now I have a source for good used kegs.

Unless my maths is wrong (and it sure could be) that's 55ml of total alc per litre X 40l still charge = 2.2 shengs of total alc or over 5l at 40%

Make one of those 55 gallon drums into a stripper and you have 25 shengs each strip at 40%



Sounds ok to me for free.

[Redfoot]

My first though was the same as yours, let it settle then separate. I can get five gallon mess bags in different micron sizes. Problem is I don’t know where to start. Though I might start with a four hundred micron and work my way down. I have a large grape press that I could easily put several of these bags into then press the liquid out. Before feeding it to the honey bees it would have to be air dried. As for the free alcohol I might give it a shot but, 5.5% is not a big return. Yes I will have to provide my own drums for shipping, but the good news is now I have a source for good used kegs.

Unless my maths is wrong (and it sure could be) that's 55ml of total alc per litre X 40l still charge = 2.2 shengs of total alc or over 5l at 40%

Make one of those 55 gallon drums into a stripper and you have 25 shengs each strip at 40%




Sounds ok to me for free.

Ok, are you hosing me?

[airhill]

Not wanting to rain on everyones day but isn't this going to contain hops or at least the flavouring from them?

[mikejwoodnz]

Not wanting to rain on everyones day but isn't this going to contain hops or at least the flavouring from them?

Maybe y'all should read the original post first as Redfoot said : "My intent is not to use the alcohol but to remove the yeast solids and to use it as a food source for my bees."

[airhill]

Fair enough but you are still going to have to get the ethanol out of it. Pissed pigs might be alright but bees have to work

[SuburbanStiller]

Spread it thin on a big ole tarp in the sun.

Also- really? bees eat yeast?